Cannot make a "-lin" new quad file

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OK. Hope it worked!

My first number in the curves file starts with line 5 and ends on 133. That would not be 129 lines so I may have missed something.

The CGATS starts on line 9 and ends on line 137. That is 129 lines, right?

Catherine

Hahnemuhle_3800_CGATS.pdf (21 KB)

That worked but it’s the wrong file and the wrong format. We are looking for the file that was created by your i1 ColorMunki software, the one that you are supposed to copy and paste into the Curve page of the Smoother, NOT the CGATS page, and it should be a .txt file, not pdf or any other format. When you open it, it should open in TextEdit. Why do you even have a pdf file?

In my SpyderPrint software, there is a somewhat hidden (or at least well buried) folder where these files are kept. Maybe there is something similar in yours. In the ColorMunki dialog when you make your readings is there not something about where to save the resulting file?

I am sorry. I just misunderstood. Here is the .txt file that I created from the .csv file that Colormunki created.

I saved it on the desktop.

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ColorMunki.txt (3.62 KB)

Looking at the ColorMunki txt file it looks like you do need to change the last few numbers manually as the instructions say.

I did see a direct typing permissions bug in the Smoother tool excel file when doing this. Not sure how it that happened. Regardless, I fixed the bug and updated PiezoDN to 1.9 (it’s available in the Downloads section).

However, the 1.8 version still lets you copy and past the 129 number so feel free to correct the last few numbers manually and then just copy and past them into the smoother tool. I did a successful linearization at strength of 2.

best,

Walker

In fact. It’s possible do to this without any manual correction and a strength of 2. (see attached screenshot)

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Walker, you and Keith are real jewels! I tried to post the Colormunki .txt file into the first page of the smoother tool but I get the same message, " This chart is protected and is read only." I select the numbers in the .txt file, copy and then try to paste in the smoother tool. That is not exactly hard to do. :slight_smile:

I downloaded version 1.9 and noticed now there are instructions for Colormunki. Also mention is made of the Piezography Error Corrector link (Google docs). Can you send that to me by email? Maybe that will help.

Thanks for the updates that you are creating.

Much appreciation, Catherine

 

Try opening the txt file in excel and selecting just the L* numbers.

 

The txt file contains more than three columns of data so you will be getting that error if you don’t do what Keith and I have been describing. This is also talked about in the new ColorMunki instructions in the new manual.

 

best,

Walker

It has an extra column AND an extra row. I counted 129 rows of numbers plus the column headings. There may be a setting in your ColorMunki software to turn those off. But try Walker’s suggestion. Open it in (or copy it to) Excel the select ONLY the 129 rows and 3 columns of numbers. Try copying that to the Smoother.

Something else to be aware of when copying/pasting In Excel is that if you right click when pasting and then select Paste Special …, you can then select Values so that it won’t paste any unwanted or unnecessary formatting, formulas, etc. - just the values.

Believe it or not! Catherine finally got a lin.quad file tonight after working on it for 2 hours! I am not even sure how I did it.I kept trying different methods- Excel, Google sheets, etc. At one point Excel kept crashing every time I tried to open the smoother file. So I downloaded the program again.

I wish I could go to the next step but my ColorMunki is not working. I have started to work with Xrite to fix it but I do not think this will be quickly done.

Thanks for all your help. I will probably be back with more questions but for now there will be one less problem for you to solve!

Catherine

 

 

Congrats! Now make a new 129-step negative using that curve. Print it in the darkroom using exactly the same chemistry and procedures you used the when you printed the Master. You should see a visible difference between the 2 prints. The next step would be to read the print with your ColorMunki and enter the data into the Smoother to verify linearity. If it is now linear, you are ready to print images, or make an ICC profile if you want. If it is not quite linear yet, which in my experience is the case more often than not, you repeat the process a second time but using the first -lin curve rather than the Master. If you are going to be stuck without your ColorMunki for a while, I’d be happy to do the readings for you if you’d like, but you would have to send me the print.

Keith, how very generous of you to offer but the ColorMunki is now working. Xrite support knew exactly what to do.

Thanks for all your support.

Catherine

I am using ColorMunki and after the measurements my choices to save the file are comma separated, adobe color, adobe swatch exchange, quark color library, Corel Paint color file or X-rite color exchange file. I have saved the readings as a csv file. This file opens as an excel file and all the cells are filled with numbers in additon to the L a b numbers. I know very little about working with Excel. I clear all the numbers except the L a b columns. Then I try to save this as a txt file. When I open that txt file it is a mess with numbers all over the place. Maybe I thought I cleared all the extra numbers but didn’t. I will post screen shots.

Then I have to post these numbers in the CGATS template. Right?

I think I am confused now. : )
These screen shots are only partials. If you want to see the whole thing let me know.

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OK! I put the CSV file in a Google spread sheet but I cannot figure out how to convert it to a text file.

I do not see any choices to make a text file.

Thanks again. I will get this eventually! ; )

You simply select the Lab values (the 129 numbers under Lab_L) and copy/paste them into the right place in the PiezoDN Smoother Tool.

cheers,
Walker

You are trying to paste more than 129 rows or you are copying and pasting into the wrong row.

Really all you need is the L* values.

But just copy the 129 numbers and paste them by clicking the top left L* (in green) and then pasting.

-Walker

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Save this as a tab delimited text file. I save it to the Curves folder, run the QTR-Linearize-Quad app, and then move the text file to a sub-folder I created called Text in case I need it again later.[attachment file=1412]

Now select the Master quad the you started with (or whatever quad you started with) and the text file you just made, and drag them to the QTR-Linearize-Quad droplet in Applications/QuadToneRIP; or right-click the 2 selected files, click Open With …, Other, Applications, QuadToneRIP, QTR-Linearize-Quad.

A new quad with -lin appended to the name should now appear in the Curves folder. (There will also be a new text file with -out appended to the name. This file can be moved to the trash.)

Move your text file to another folder, then run the install command to install your new linearized file.

Now repeat the whole procedure to verify that the linearization worked. If necessary, perform a second linearization. Once you are satisfied with the linearization, you might want to make an ICC profile.

Note: Text files left in the Curves folder can cause problems when you run the install command. Be sure not to leave them there.

Hope I didn’t leave anything out! :wink:

I thought I posted the screen shots last night but they did not show up.

I will try again.

Catherine

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There are no zeros in the other files. The zeros are only found in the out.txt file.

Does that mean something?

Here is the txt file before I tried to linearize.

Catherine

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I do not know what just happened. One screen shot did not post correctly. Here it is again.

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Catherine

Yes. Please attach the .txt file.