Epson 9900 vs 9880 for digital neg printing


#1

Hi all. Hope you are having some wonderful winter holidays all of you!
<p class=“MsoNormal”>I have been using a Epson 9900 converted into K7 for printing mainly digital negatives. Due to intermittent use and problems with pigment settling and some clogging (not stable) on the head of the 9900, I am considering on using our other printer, a 9880, for printing negatives, and leaving the 9900 sit filled with piezoflush for when in the future we might print more regularly and on matt-gloss paper besides digital negatives.</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal”>The reason we are considering to switch to the 9880 is that for what I see, the 9880 is quite “uncloggable” and when some clogging appears, it always goes away with ease. I also know the 9880 has “proper” power cleanings, and can be flushed and filled with 3 power cleanings rather than using init fills as with the 9900… The 9880 prints slowly though, but I guess that in the future when using the new driver for PiezoDN that is about to arrive, prints will take long anyway due to the high resolution and the new dithering system?</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal”>What is important for us is to have a system that provides the best quality in terms of digital negatives, and very importantly that is consistent and works well without clogging, pigment settling, bandings and other problems. I know printing frequently, cleaning the machines and shaking the carts are some of the things that need to be done in order to optimize the functioning of the printers… but real life makes it hard to avoid intermittent use of the printer. So, we would like to know based on your experience and feedback:</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 36.0pt; text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;”><!-- [if !supportLists]–>-<span style=“font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;”> </span><!–[endif]–>Would you recommend using the 9880 over the 9900? Will the 9880 perform better as workhorse than the 9900? Will it be less prone to clogging, banding, etc than the 9900?</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 36.0pt; text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;”><!-- [if !supportLists]–>-<span style=“font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;”> </span><!–[endif]–>If we choose the 9880 for printing digital negatives will we obtain the same level of quality than when using the 9900?</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 36.0pt; text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;”><!-- [if !supportLists]–>-<span style=“font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;”> </span><!–[endif]–>With the future arrival of the new driver for printing PiezoDN will the 9880 still be equal to the 9900 or limited in any way?</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 36.0pt; text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;”><!-- [if !supportLists]–>-<span style=“font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;”> </span><!–[endif]–>With the future arrival of the new Pro inks for printing digital negatives, will the 9880 still be equal to the 9900 or limited in any way?</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 36.0pt; text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;”><!-- [if !supportLists]–>-<span style=“font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;”> </span>Epson 9880 only has carts of 200 ml. We would be interested in purchasing inks in 350 or 700 ml in order to keep costs down… Can one fill the carts of the 9880 and keep the remaining ink in the bottles stored for some time? How long and how can the inks be stored safely to guarantee they do not go stale?</p>
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 18.0pt;”>As you can see, I am trying to figure out whether to commit to the 9900 or switch to the 9880 for future printing digital negatives, with a special consideration towards ease of use and reliability, quality and future-proof in terms of incoming improvements in the inks and driver technology.</p>
 
<p class=“MsoNormal” style=“margin-left: 18.0pt;”>Thanks so much!</p>


#2

Hi all. Hope you are having some wonderful winter holidays all of you!

I have been using a Epson 9900 converted into K7 for printing mainly digital negatives. Due to intermittent use and problems with pigment settling and some clogging (not stable) on the head of the 9900, I am considering on using our other printer, a 9880, for printing negatives, and leaving the 9900 sit filled with piezoflush for when in the future we might print more regularly and on matt-gloss paper besides digital negatives.

The reason we are considering to switch to the 9880 is that for what I see, the 9880 is quite “uncloggable” and when some clogging appears, it always goes away with ease. I also know the 9880 has “proper” power cleanings, and can be flushed and filled with 3 power cleanings rather than using init fills as with the 9900… The 9880 prints slowly though, but I guess that in the future when using the new driver for PiezoDN that is about to arrive, prints will take long anyway due to the high resolution and the new dithering system?

What is important for us is to have a system that provides the best quality in terms of digital negatives, and very importantly that is consistent and works well without clogging, pigment settling, bandings and other problems. I know printing frequently, cleaning the machines and shaking the carts are some of the things that need to be done in order to optimize the functioning of the printers… but based on your experience and feedback:

-Would you recommend using the 9880 over the 9900? Will the 9880 perform better as workhorse than the 9900? Will it be less prone to clogging, banding, etc than the 9900?

-If we choose the 9880 for printing digital negatives will we obtain the same level of quality than when using the 9900?

-With the future arrival of the new driver for printing PiezoDN will the 9880 still be equal to the 9900 or limited in any way?

-With the future arrival of the new Pro inks for printing digital negatives, will the 9880 still be equal to the 9900 or limited in any way?

-I see the Epson 9880 only has carts of 200 ml. We would be interested in purchasing inks in 350 or 700 ml in order to keep costs down… Can one fill the carts of the 9880 and keep the remaining ink in the bottles stored for some time? How long and how can it be stored safely to guarantee it does not go stale?

As you can see, I am trying to figure out whether to commit to the 9900 or switch to the 9880 for future printing digital negatives, with a special consideration towards ease of use and reliability, quality and future-proof in terms of incoming improvements in the inks and driver technology.

Thanks so much!